Z8

photobunny

axlrose said:

photobunny said:

And here is a wake from standby

is the same no-delay thing also when camera is idle, not turned off?

The camera is on standby. So I just half pressed the shutter button to wake it up.

axlrose

photobunny said:

axlrose said:

photobunny said:

And here is a wake from standby

is the same no-delay thing also when camera is idle, not turned off?

The camera is on standby. So I just half pressed the shutter button to wake it up.

Ah, I see. Thank you!

photobunny

axlrose said:

photobunny said:

axlrose said:

photobunny said:

And here is a wake from standby

is the same no-delay thing also when camera is idle, not turned off?

The camera is on standby. So I just half pressed the shutter button to wake it up.

Ah, I see. Thank you!

Anytime. If you want any more wee videos of how stuff works feel free to ask.

axlrose

photobunny said:

axlrose said:

photobunny said:

axlrose said:

photobunny said:

And here is a wake from standby

is the same no-delay thing also when camera is idle, not turned off?

The camera is on standby. So I just half pressed the shutter button to wake it up.

Ah, I see. Thank you!

Anytime. If you want any more wee videos of how stuff works feel free to ask.

Actually, I would like to ask one thing more: If you make multiple exposure in camera.. does it save as RAW or only JPG? Thanks!

Pistnbroke

So the new firmware update for the Z9 lifts it to a level above the Z8. Good marketing ploy

donaldejose

Yes, but note firmware 4.0 does not make it a Z8+. Nikon did not add the Z8 skin softening feature to the Z9 update. They easily could have. Why not? It seems Nikon is distinguishing the two bodies with the Z8 having a portrait feature the Z9 does not have and the Z9 now having some useful sports, action, wildlife features the Z8 does not have. Good marketing. Nikon will sell more cameras that way.

mhedges

Wonder if the Z8 will eventually get some of these same updates.

donaldejose

I would have thought so and still think they will appear later. Maybe firmware update 4.0 was created separately and they just didn't get included but we will see them in the next Z8 firmware update? Maybe Nikon just wants some difference at first so more people buy the Z8 if they already own a Z9 and would not do so if the 4.0 update included everything the Z8 has. Maybe and I would think so, but we will have to wait and see what Nikon does. If so, then we can also expect a later Z8 firmware update to add some of the Z9 4.0 features. If that happens the "main feature" of the Z8 will become just $1,500 less cost and no vertical grip and a smaller battery. Isn't that how the D3 and D700 were essentially different?

mhedges

I guess Nikon has said the Auto Capture feature will come to Z8. Not sure about the rest. The only one I really need is Exposure delay; I'm very surprised it was left out - I thought that was a standard feature.

mhedges

Anyone have problems with cards on the Z8? I used my Delkin Power 512 card for a shoot, pulled the images off with a card reader, then put it back in the Z8 and the camera gave an error that it couldn't access the card. Wound up having to reformat it in my Z6 and then it was OK.

May have had something to do with the Z8 battery being pretty low but it wasn't giving any errors for low battery.

Pistnbroke

I see the Z8 is having problems with the strap mounts pulling out and the camera falling to the ground..I have hung all my cameras inc D850 with flash and grip from one strap lug for years as the lug was bolted through the casing..looks like the Z8 is just a push fit. Glad I carnt afford one

mhedges

Pistnbroke said:

I see the Z8 is having problems with the strap mounts pulling out and the camera falling to the ground..I have hung all my cameras inc D850 with flash and grip from one strap lug for years as the lug was bolted through the casing..looks like the Z8 is just a push fit. Glad I carnt afford one

Yeah it's pretty disappointing. My understanding is that it isn't supposed to be a push fit but there was some kind of assembly error. Supposedly if you send your body back for the lens lock recall they will also check the strap lugs.

Symphotic

I just ordered a Z8. My colleague uses a Z9, but I don't need the additional specs. Nikon gave me a pretty good trade-in on my D500, which I hardly ever use nowadays.
I'm keeping my D850.

photobunny

Congratulations on your new camera! I hope the wait for the bird update isn’t too long (if birds is even your thing).

Symphotic

The D500 was for birds, but I don’t do that so much anymore. I’m keeping my D850 and will probably hang on to my Z7. My colleague does sports photography, and is a convert from the other big brand once the Z9 came out.

WestEndFoto

Symphotic said:

I just ordered a Z8. My colleague uses a Z9, but I don't need the additional specs. Nikon gave me a pretty good trade-in on my D500, which I hardly ever use nowadays.
I'm keeping my D850.

I have both the Z8 and Z9. I find myself reaching for the Z9 more often, but the Z8 is a good second camera. In Yellowstone and Grand Teton I had the 400 4.5 attached to it all the time and it was really handy when I saw wildlife. It reinforces that I really love to shoot the fully gripped bodies. The extra weight does not bother me - and it gets pretty big with the 1.2 primes. In Yellowstone, I was using the Z9 with the 1.8 primes typically.

photobunny

WestEndFoto said:

Symphotic said:

I just ordered a Z8. My colleague uses a Z9, but I don't need the additional specs. Nikon gave me a pretty good trade-in on my D500, which I hardly ever use nowadays.
I'm keeping my D850.

I have both the Z8 and Z9. I find myself reaching for the Z9 more often, but the Z8 is a good second camera. In Yellowstone and Grand Teton I had the 400 4.5 attached to it all the time and it was really handy when I saw wildlife. It reinforces that I really love to shoot the fully gripped bodies. The extra weight does not bother me - and it gets pretty big with the 1.2 primes. In Yellowstone, I was using the Z9 with the 1.8 primes typically.

The 1.8 primes feel a bit tiny on the Z9. I like them more on the Z6/Z7 bodies. I also like the Z6 and Z8 sized bodies more for when I am attempting landscape, or perhaps more accurately it is when I am mounting a body to the tripod instead of the lens to the tripod.

mhedges

Anyone have tips on how to best use the pre-exposure image capture feature? It only works in JPG right? And must be 30FPS or 120? Are the 30 FPS images full resolution? 120 is viewfinder resolution, I believe?

Searcy

I've been shooting with the Z6 since it came out. I'm thinking that the Z8 will be my next body but I'm dragging my feet on buying it.

donaldejose

Go for it. Think of the Z8 as the mirrorless D850. It will be a legend.

trolley

mhedges said:

Anyone have tips on how to best use the pre-exposure image capture feature? It only works in JPG right? And must be 30FPS or 120? Are the 30 FPS images full resolution? 120 is viewfinder resolution, I believe?

On the Z9 it’s all jpeg. You can choose 15 or 30fps full frame; 60fps is crop sensor and 120fps is “only” 11MP. You can also set how many frames before the shutter is released are kept. I have mine at 0.5 seconds- at 30fps that's ~15 frames, and it keeps firing till I let go.
Of course if your reactions are slow, they might not contain anything useful!

mhedges

Searcy said:

I've been shooting with the Z6 since it came out. I'm thinking that the Z8 will be my next body but I'm dragging my feet on buying it.

I also got Z6 at launch and got the Z8 when it came out. Overall I like it a lot although I still prefer the Z6 control scheme. But the speed of the Z8 and the lack of mechanical shutter is nice. Now I find the Z6 seems slow and clunky when I use it.

donaldejose

I like the Z8 body size better than the Z6 body size. If you buy a Z6lll you get faster everything since it has the Z8 processor and both a mechanical shutter as well as an electronic shutter (chose which you want to use) with a partially stacked sensor. If you don't need more than 24 megapixels it is a very good value. Just put the SmallRig L plate on it you have a nice Z8 grip size. If you like the Z6 and Z7 control format with their U1, U2, U3 feature you can think of it as a Z8 with the Z6 and Z7 controls for about $1,000.00 less than a Z8. Set up that way it comes down to whether or not you need or want the additional megapixels of the 45mp sensor in the Z9 and Z8. For some things, such as wildlife, I do and for somethings, such as studio portraits, I don't. In my opinion Nikon is now producing legendary cameras and lenses and the Z7III will be one too if it contains a very high mp sensor in the range of 80 to 100 mp. I don't think a 45 or 60 mp sensor in the Z7lll will be enough to make it a compelling purchase over the Z8. 15 mp more won't be striking. Double the megapixels would be. So, in my opinion, Nikon should follow the double megapixel path. 24mp (Z6III), 45mp (Z9 and Z8) and 90mp (Z7III). Of course, such a high megapixel sensor has to be available and I do not know if one is or will be in a year.

Capt_Spaulding

As Donald noted, you can think of the Z8 as a somewhat more capable D850 in a smaller form factor. But, it’s more than that. It’s also a more capable mirrorless D500 in a similar sized frame.

At one point I was considering buying both a D850 and a D500 when they were still available new. When the Z8 came out it was both cameras in one manageably sized body.

In my case it just takes a touch of the video record button to switch from one to the other.

donaldejose

Yes, that is true Capt_Spaulding. I think the Z8 will be one of Nikon's legendary cameras. I just used if for this photo (cropped and processed in Nikon Studio NX). This Red-Tail Hawk flies away when I try to get closer so I have to crop. For size comparison the Red-Tail Hawk is about 5 pounds which is about the size of a roaster chicken at the grocery store. Z8+180-600 zoom).