Nikon D610 discussion

spraynpray

I'm sure it will be fine, everybody makes mistakes (even Nikon). I just hope they do what they can for the D600 owners.

We'll know more in 24 hrs when it is announced anyway (nicely timed for Christmas).

It has my FX lust going again...

heartyfisher

FX lust ! :-) yup yup..:-) but I am looking out for a nice D600 :-)

sevencrossing

the spec is out

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/10/08/slight-improvement-nikon-d610-first-impressions-review?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=image&ref=image_0

PB_PM

Hopefully this will put the dust issue to rest, once and for all.

sevencrossing

at the moment , In the UK the D610 is only £100 cheaper than the D800
cant see a big rush at that price

Msmoto

D610 at Adorama, Amazon, & B & H, all at $2,000 in the USA. The D600 new is about $100 less and a refurb near $1500.

donaldejose

Great! The "impossible" $1,500 full frame digital camera is finally here! But you better buy sensor cleaner supplies for another $50. I am now at about 800 shots since last cleaning and no new cleaning yet needed. While the 610 certainly looks good what do you really get of significance other than perhaps a "dust free" sensor? I don't see a significant advantage for me to switch to a D610. If you can find a "dust free" sensor D600 for $500 or $600 less wouldn't that be the better deal? As we gather user experience if we find that the excess sensor dust finally returns to normal after about 10,000 exposures the best FX deal may be a used D600 with more than 10,000 shutter actuations.

sevencrossing

So are we going to a tread about the D610 or just another moan about dust and the D600
To be honest, Nikon are not doing a good marketing job, they should have dropped the D60* name completely

proudgeek

Agreed. Incredibly cynical.

Photobug

PitchBlack said:
This is just crappy on Nikon's part. The aren't admitting to any kind of problem so they don't have to deal with the consequences, but everyone knows there's a problem with the 600 so they change the name to distance themselves from a flawed product. Thanks a lot Nikon. This is a dick move.

Agreed. And of course Nikon left the D600 on their web site to help the local dealers and mail order dealers sell off their D600s.

BigDog

Quote from Thom Hogan in reaction to the D610 announcement:

"Here's a thought: if you want to be the number one camera producer in the world, maybe you ought to act like the number one supporter of your customers ..."

studio460

Single-click 100% zoom?

The only feature I'm curious to know if the new D610 has, is if Nikon added a menu option to enable a single center-click on the multi-selector button to view the active focus point at 100% zoom magnification upon image playback. As I understand it, the current D600 does not have this feature.

It seems as if Nikon uses this feature (frustratingly) to differentiate "pro" bodies from non-pro bodies, since I'm sure it costs almost nothing to hard-code this into the button firmware. This feature is essential to fast-paced shooting to be able to quickly confirm focus.

Photobug

stuido460, I would ask Nikon that question on their web site. Now that the model has been announced they should be able to answer this question.

syn3rgy

Was just chatting to a Nikon "online chat" person and asked them if there would possibly be any sort of "trade in" and he said no. the D610 is a successor to the D600 .When i asked him how exactly it was a "successor" since it didn't really have any major enhancements to justify it being a "successor" his words were.

We decided to release this model in order to respond as quickly as possible to demand for a faster continuous shooting rate and the addition of a quiet continuous shutter release mode.

Im pretty sure that was not the only demands ......

heartyfisher

Scripts .. love them ..

Msmoto

I love this..."faster continuous shooting rate"....who are they kidding? The difference is imperceptible. I am still waiting for the person who takes their D600 to the courtroom, asking for the D610 as a replacement.

syn3rgy

if nikon dont want to do a re-call, they could at least offer something like

1) if your camera is 1 month old it can be replaced with a D610
2) if it is X months old you can trade in and get X amount off the D610
3) if it is X months old ... ... .. .

at lest show some sort of remorse

bbarb

Demand for Faster continuous frame rate???

First time i hear such a demand for d600. Who asked it??
Anyway, Thanks god, that it was asked, and by the way they also fixed the dust issue. Sure...
I am also sure they left the world stunning with the new frame rate which is something that human kind will remember forever. From 5.5 to 6 fps!!! Yes yes people its not a mistake 6 fps. Yes believe in your eyes SIX!

How on earth is it possible people with such ideas to survive in such companies??
If i was ceo of nikon, the guy that had this idea for such an excuse, will have been fired in the next second. And the rest of the team that agreed, even the lower level employees would have forgoten anykind of bonus for this year for not complaining and for not reporting this guy in advanced.
My god!

spraynpray

Time to take a chill pill @bbarb - LOL!

@ PitchBlack: Did you tell the Nikon representative that he (or whoever wrote that script) must have a pretty low regard for Nikon customers if he thinks we are stupid enough to swallow that BS?

syn3rgy

@spraynpray: i spoke to the rep: and yes, i pretty much said it was more to try and recover from their screwup with the dust\oil issue and I simply got the reply of "Im sorry you feel that way" ...

spraynpray

@syn3rgy: Well I certainly hope he is 'sorry you feel that way', after all it is his company that made you feel that way in the first place!

Sorry for the mistaken identity.

heartyfisher

@spraynpray: i spoke to the rep: and yes, i pretty much said it was more to try and recover from their screwup with the dust\oil issue and I simply got the reply of "Im sorry you feel that way" ...

LOL! - scripts ! you were totally scriptified !

Photobug

Okay, I am getting on my soap box to blow off some steam.

Ken Rockwell is a "jerk"...no make it a "big jerk" and I am beginning to believe he doesn't care about accuracy in his equipment reviews and announcements.

When the D610 was announced I went to the NikonUSA web site to carefully read the specs and features. Then to B&H and Adoroma. I checked KR's site and read his initial announcement info on the camera, which had spec and feature info. In his introductory comments he said and I quote: the D610 is a firmware and front nameplate changed:(in reference to the D600). I disagreed with that conclusion, So I sent him a note saying that the shutter mechanism was also changed and suggested he update his comments. His reply: " Possibly only thing new is revved part number ."

I sent a message back...and I quote:
:> "You missed the point. On the Nikon web site they say they changed the shutter mechanism and your posted review says only firmware and front nameplate changed. Just trying to give you the heads up that your posted info is incorrect."

And his replay "I covered that somewhere, but it's not important."

You have got to be joking. A new shutter IS NOT IMPORTANT! Give me a break. It appears that the oil issue is related to the shutter mechanism. The new shutter mechanism fixes that problem (we hope) and provides a half frame improvement in FPS. Also in his comments he makes no mention to past dust and oil problems. He only recommends the D600 over the D610 and he has not seen/touched the D610 yet.

In the summary section you need to be accurate and complete. My opinion he does not care for accuracy. I have given up on KR's opinions. He is so inconsistent.

Okay, off the soap box. Thanks for letting me vent. Did not mean to open up a pro or con KR discussion; that was recently covered in a bunch of messages a few weeks ago. We don't need to go there again. I was just irritated by his response.

Msmoto

Spy_Black 12:41AM asked:

I was reading over at DPreview that the D610 has a new, different shutter that allows it to shoot at 6 fps and have a "quiet mode". It also has improved WB capabilities, and nothing else beyond that.

Does anyone believe there is a physically different shutter in the camera, or could it could all be the product of firmware tweaks? If we consider the latter, what would it take to hack the D610 firmware to run on the D600? Obviously it would have to be hacked to ignore the model number, but beyond that, unless there actually is a different shutter in the D610, a firmware hack could give you a D610 for the price of (an understandably risky) firmware update. If nothing else, however, the D600 could get improved WB.

[Deleted User]

Better auto WB and 0.5 fps as an upgrade, what a laugh. If I want the right WB, I measure. Simplest method, WB + (gray card) + click in LR, done. What tests in what circumstances you have to do, to conclude that the auto WB from the D610 is better.

Further nothing as subjective as color and the auto WB of the D600 is already super.

I have a quiet mode on the D600, first wait what the better quiet mode on the D610 is, it is only a very small firmware tweak as Msmoto says.

New shutter? I think that is the same shutter Nikon uses as replacement for the returned D600's. Problem solved? Not at all, Nikon just want to lose there stock, which is a financial killer for them at the moment.