Nikon D4s

PB_PM

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Photobug

I just read the main board and saw the D4s is coming next week. So here is a question for all you D4 owners.

1. Are you going to buy the new D4z?
2. Will it replace your current D4 or will you keep your D4?
3. And for the non D4 owners, anyone expecting to move up and buy the D4s?
I am just trying to gauge how many D4 owners will be selling their D4.

Moderators...thought I would add my question to this forum rather than open up a new one.

cowleystjames

I love my D4, but if the D4s offers higher resolution I may be tempted. At the moment, we don't seam to have any confirmed specs.

paulr

2 Will not Replace, Keep my D4 wait to see if a D4x comes out later, then i will swap

Juergen

The only thing which would get me think about upgrading would be a SIGNIFICANT improvement in low light performance. If so, I would trade in my D4.

Anyway, I am very curios on the specs of the D4s.

Jürgen

framer

D5 will be my next body. I'm skipping D4 & D4s. D3s has been super.

framer

Golf007sd

@framer: If I had the D3s, I too would do the same. Moreover, the new feature have to be in a fashion that justifies the move, should one own Nikon's pro bodies in the first place. The D700 to the D800 is a good example where the move was very much worth it. In fact, I was very much on the fence when I was looking at D4 vs. D800e. As a new owner to Nikon's pro bodies, I went with the D4 based on my own personal needs and the input I got from those that I valued their insight...some had both i.e. D4 & D800

Another good example was the introduction of the D7100. I did not feel the need to upgrade my D7000 to it, even with the new improvements. But for those that were looking at getting into the semi-pro body, the D7100 is a perfect choice.

For the moment, I do not see myself going to any new body anytime soon. Maybe D6 or whatever it turns out to be in the future. Hence, the D4 does everything I want and more....at least for now and my usage of it.

henrik1963

@Golf007sd:I wonder how many inhere have said the same only to fall victime to GAS :-) I myself try to avoid GAS by taking cold showers - no luck so far :-)

Photobug

Interesting responses to my question. I can't wait to see the specs, especially the number of mexapixels.

If you have a great DSLR, D4, D3s, D800, in my mind it's got to be a significant step up to justify upgrading. Once the specs are released I expect the interest is going to increase. My hunch Nikon has not revealed all features on the D4S.

TaoTeJared

Interesting responses to my question. I can't wait to see the specs, especially the number of mexapixels.

If you have a great DSLR, D4, D3s, D800, in my mind it's got to be a significant step up to justify upgrading. Once the specs are released I expect the interest is going to increase. My hunch Nikon has not revealed all features on the D4S.

Nikon hasn't released anything yet. I doubt it will be anything real groundbreaking. Most seem to skip pro releases. Many D3 owners skipped the D3s - many D3s owners skipped the D4. They will just pick up most of the rest of the D3s owners now. My local cam shop can't keep the DF stocked as many of the usual D3/4 body casual (non-pro/fine art) users have actually picked that up. I doubt that is all that many, but for a small segment it makes since.

@Photobug - What you have to understand and keep in mind is that many of the photogs at the Olympics (who this camera is for) will be shooting 200,000 - 400,000 shots in 2-weeks. I know shooters who will rack up 400,000 shutter clicks a year that sell their bodies once they get to 150k and get a new one about every 3-4 months. If you are in that realm of the photo business then that is just life.

Photobug

TaoTJ...that is a whole lot of clicks if they are shooting 150K in 3 to 4 months. More than what I would have expected.

Good point about the Olympic photographers. They are going to shoot 200K - 400K in two weeks. Would not be surprised if Nikon stripped down these bodies to see how the shutter and other parts held up to the shooting.

Fritz

I had my D700 stolen this past summer leaving me with my D4 as my only body. I had the opportunity to use a a D800 long enough to realize that I didn't really have an affinity for the camera as incredible as that camera may be. So yes, I guess I will buy a 4s even though it will be a financial stretch for me.

Sanook

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Parke1953

The D4 does 10 frames a second. 600 frames a minute. should be easy to do 30 frames a minute with time to go pee and scratch ones backside. I think maybe they can do that many.

Sanook

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PB_PM

I suspect a good chunk of those photos are taken by remote cameras. Some photographers could be working with 4-6 cameras, which are wireless triggered to shoot at the same time. If you take into account, 1000 shots per body, that's up to 6k per event. That same photographer will likely shoot 4-5 events a day. That's up to a possible 30k a day. So yes, they might not be shooting 400,000 on one body, but on all of them combined, it is totally possible.

When I was shooting tennis a few years ago I was taking 800+ in a 3 1/2 - 4 hour event, so I could easily see a pro sports shooter taking 1000+ in the same time frame.

Sanook

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Parke1953

Sanook I do agree with you that is a bunch of photos and would probably kill me but PB_PM could be right. How can we find out. Anyone know anybody there. I would like to know.

PB_PM

@Sanook You are assuming all the shots are of downhill skiing, and just at the finish line. You are over simplifying things here. I get it, you don't shoot sports events.

TaoTeJared

Sorry Snook, but they are not shooting portraits or with film anymore. And yes I should have added 400k clicks on multiple bodies. I know we had a thread on what some photog was taking and he was planning on 200k clicks. I have read various photographer interviews that range from 200k-500k for the games. The 500k was shooting 12 bodies for various events. Those guys/gals are firing at full burst all the time. As one put it "Telling an editor that you missed a shot because you "choose" your shot doesn't cut it." Figure that many sports (even wildlife) shooters will fire 3-10 second bursts at 10fps (or as fast as the camera will continue to shoot) across 2-4 bodies. That is 400 shot bursts in a second. One just has to do that a 60 times a day. In the Giant Slalom there are 90+ per run for women. 90 runs X 3 cameras x (5sec burst @ 10fps) = 13,500 (x16 days = 216,000). If I saw correctly there were 117 for the men - 17,550 (x16=280,800). Granted slalom doesn't last 16 days, but there are similar events going on constantly.

Actually knocking that many frames off is not far fetched at all. I knocked off just over 400 shots in a 1.5hrs during a 6-month old baby shoot that other day. It's not the luge for sure, but he was happy bouncing, rolling, and playing with the dog. Catching him still was not happening that day. That's 4 shots per min. 3fps, burst shooting, that I had to resort too half way through created a ton of files. The more unpredictable the situation is, the shots multiply exponentially you need to guarantee you get the shot. If I was shooting a 12yr old, I probably would have only had 60 shots max.

Sanook

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Sanook

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donaldejose

Maybe the 400,000 clicks include a first 100,000 just to clear the shutter mechanism of all oil spotting!

tc88

And another 200k to warm up the camera and the lubrication.

tc88

Common sense is also asking who's reviewing and how many reviewers are needed if each photographer indeed produced 400k pictures.