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  • AdeAde Posts: 1,071Member
    At some point in the "not-so-distant" future it might be more efficient to just shoot 4K video 100% of the time, and then have editors take frame grabs as required.
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  • IronheartIronheart Posts: 3,017Moderator
    400K photos is 3.7 hours if viewed at 30fps :))
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  • tc88tc88 Posts: 537Member
    edited February 2014
    I agree. It would be easier to find the needed frame from the video. So I highly doubt that 400k per photographer figure because I don't think that's practical.
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  • SanookSanook Posts: 66Member
    edited July 2014
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  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,494Member
    At some point in the "not-so-distant" future it might be more efficient to just shoot 4K video 100% of the time, and then have editors take frame grabs as required.
    Video files are never as sharp as still photos, simply by nature of how video is shot, so it is no replacement for a good still photo. Even video shot at 120fps is only 1/240s, not good enough for sports action.
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
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  • henrik1963henrik1963 Posts: 567Member
    I wonder how long it would take just to download 400000 shots?
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  • AdeAde Posts: 1,071Member

    Video files are never as sharp as still photos, simply by nature of how video is shot, so it is no replacement for a good still photo. Even video shot at 120fps is only 1/240s, not good enough for sports action.
    That's only if the shutter angle is left at 180 degrees. However when shooting fast action it's common to reduce the angle. For example a 45 degree shutter at 120fps would be 1/960s. Most sports won't require such a short shutter speed.
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  • MsmotoMsmoto Posts: 5,398Moderator
    Just a couple of thoughts….no need to replace my D4. Still works better than I can.

    This is the D4s thread, yes?
    Msmoto, mod
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  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    Msmoto...even if the D4S is 24MP and the FPS and buffer are higher, you are not upgrading?
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  • WestEndBoyWestEndBoy Posts: 1,456Member
    I'll buy it if and only if the AF points are more widely spaced. Just sayin'
    It is beyond me why they have not done that.
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  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,494Member

    Video files are never as sharp as still photos, simply by nature of how video is shot, so it is no replacement for a good still photo. Even video shot at 120fps is only 1/240s, not good enough for sports action.
    That's only if the shutter angle is left at 180 degrees. However when shooting fast action it's common to reduce the angle. For example a 45 degree shutter at 120fps would be 1/960s. Most sports won't require such a short shutter speed.
    That's fine if you are after only still photos, but if you are trying to capture both that you will end up with some very stutter filled video files. To me the only reason press companies would switch to just video shooting would be to eliminate still photographer jobs. Thus sending one person, rather than two.

    You end up with rather low resolution photos, then again most press shots are 1MP or less, so that might be fine.
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
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  • AdeAde Posts: 1,071Member
    It depends. Many major movies have fast action scenes shot at 45 degrees (Gladiator, Saving Private Ryan) with beautiful results. Saving Private Ryan won an Oscar for Best Cinematography. Gladiator won a nomination for the same.

    Will the D4S give us 720p 120 fps? Or 1080p at 60 fps? I guess we'll know in a few hours!
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  • PB_PMPB_PM Posts: 4,494Member
    My guess is that the will at least have 60p at 1080p. Either that or Nikon will really surprise us with 4k video...
    If I take a good photo it's not my camera's fault.
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  • AdeAde Posts: 1,071Member
    I was thinking 24mp would be possible based on the Adorama non use of cut-n-paste but damn now I'm hoping for 16mp for admin's sake lol.
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  • MsmotoMsmoto Posts: 5,398Moderator
    I won't know what to do if Peter is wrong... ;;)
    Msmoto, mod
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  • WestEndBoyWestEndBoy Posts: 1,456Member
    I won't know what to do if Peter is wrong... ;;)
    Don't worry. I will buy it from him and start it up again.
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  • PhotobugPhotobug Posts: 5,751Member
    I won't know what to do if Peter is wrong... ;;)
    No way Peter is wrong...it's 16MP...........please. LoL

    He is too confident and we all know he has double checked this part of the spec. Can wait to see what is "really new" on the D4S.
    D750 & D7100 | 24-70 F2.8 G AF-S ED, 70-200 F2.8 AF VR, TC-14E III, TC-1.7EII, 35 F2 AF D, 50mm F1.8G, 105mm G AF-S VR | Backup & Wife's Gear: D5500 & Sony HX50V | 18-140 AF-S ED VR DX, 55-300 AF-S G VR DX |
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  • FreezeActionFreezeAction Posts: 907Member
    I'm up til the wee hours of the morning anyway so at the stroke of 12 I'll start hitting the refresh on Nikon's website. :-bd
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  • sevencrossingsevencrossing Posts: 2,800Member
    16mp after all but a mind boggeling ISO performance
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  • FreezeActionFreezeAction Posts: 907Member
    It shall rule the night...
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  • WestEndBoyWestEndBoy Posts: 1,456Member
    409,600 ISO? The marketing department had to have there way. Still, from reading the website is suggests that Nikon believes it has made some significant improvements in low light performance. I am looking forward to reading the reviews.
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  • Golf007sdGolf007sd Posts: 2,840Moderator
    edited February 2014
    I'm very pleased that Nikon stayed with the 16MP sensor. Moreover, I welcome the native ISO all the way up to 25,600 (kick ass). Personally, I don't like to shoot in the high H modes.. Hence, 400K ISO is not practical for any real image quality...IMHO. Expreed 4 should make the D4x really pop.. In fact, the new 12-bit uncompressed RAW-S should boost performance greatly...200 burst in that mode is awesome. Yet, I wonder what the buffer size is on the new beast. 1 Gig LAN, welcoming, but it should have been there on the D4 if you ask me.

    Looking forward to reading and seeing some of those that have play with it and had to hold back on their feedback to the public at large.

    One thing I can tell you, if I did not have the D4, I would be placing my pre-order for the D4s With that said, I will be skipping this model and going to the next one in the near future...2 years or so from now.

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  • Parke1953Parke1953 Posts: 456Member
    I want one. Well maybe in my next life. I guess I could save for it but by the time I had enough money the next one will be out. <:-P
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  • djwgadjwga Posts: 128Member
    yep it,s the kick ass 25,600 native iso;-)
    wonder what they can do on 16mp aps-c
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  • JuergenJuergen Posts: 315Member
    The official sample images only show images up to ISO 1000 :-(
    I hope we will see more over the next couple of days. I really do not care so much about the crazy high ISOs like 100.000 +. I would welcome an improvement on the range between 6400 to 12000. This is the range I am finding myself in for indoor sports or wildlife in early morning or at dawn.
    All other spec improvement are welcome, but don't cause me to upgrade.
    I guess the only way to find out is to rent it for a day or two.
    Jürgen
    D4, D800E, Nikon 1 J2, 600 f/4, trinity, PC-E 45, PC-E 24, 105, 50 f/1,8g, 85 f/1,4, Sigma 150-500
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