D850

heartyfisher

dunno what the complains are about... seem to me if the rumoured spec are accurate its a refreshing, back to the original successful setup, of D3/D300/D700 ...

donaldejose

"back to the original successful setup, of D3/D300/D700 " D5, D500, D850. Maybe to keep 5s in all names is the reason Nikon named is the D850 rather than the D820?

Pistnbroke

I am pleased to see so many anti the D810 style memories .....lets hope Nikon get the message ....well hope ...yeh thats the word ....

50 MP + is nothing to do with printing big pic its all to do with croping and using DX lenses and pixel pitch ...pixels on image as in bird photography....

retread

The D850 seems to me to be a step forward. I guess the only disappointments to me is I was hoping for 50+ mp and 2 XQD slots. The rest is I like that, or I don't need that but it is nice for those that will use it.

I am still learning the D500 and looking at adding lenses to my bag so don't plan on any new bodies for a while.

Pistnbroke

Well here it is

Nikon D850 Full Specification
New 46MP FX Format sensor
AF system same as Nikon D5
4K Videos
full HD 120fps video
Tiltable LCD touchscreen
Improved dynamic range
Continuous shooting speed upto 8fps
Improved low-light performace
New and improved version of SnapBridge
No built-in GPS
Memory card slots: one SD and one XQD
Back illuminated buttons
Joystick selector
Built-in Bluetooth and Wi-Fi
8K time-lapse video capabilities
The D850 will be on display at the Photo+ Expo in October
No EVF or hybrid viewfinder
D850 LCD will have twice the resolution of the D810
SD slot will support UHS-II
Improved LiveView split-screen display
Improved silent shooting mode
Better battery life
lighter than the D810
The camera shipping of the camera will start from October and we can expect its official announcement on September 2017.

PB_PM

Pistnbroke said:

I am pleased to see so many anti the D810 style memories .....lets hope Nikon get the message ....well hope ...yeh thats the word ....

50 MP + is nothing to do with printing big pic its all to do with croping and using DX lenses and pixel pitch ...pixels on image as in bird photography....

Nikon knows what they are doing, return to the old formula for making money. Expect a D5x for $7000 next year, with 6-8FPS, 50+MP etc.

Pistnbroke

Nikon knows what they are doing ??? Have you looked at the accounts .
Return to the old formula .....thats a horse and cart .....

donaldejose

50+ mp D5x for $7,000? That would be a bargain. Hope it comes true. The 24mp D3x was $8,000. The D5 is $6,500. Some people think the D5 line should be split into two: a high speed D5s and a high megapixel D5x.

PB_PM

Pistnbroke said:

Nikon knows what they are doing ??? Have you looked at the accounts .
Return to the old formula .....thats a horse and cart .....

I didn't say I agreed with what they were doing, but I can see it from their point of view. What do I know is that I'm not senior management, with access to millions of dollars of market research, at a multinational corp, and neither are you.

Nikon changed the formula a few years ago (D7200/D600/D610/D800/D810), and profitability started to drop as sales fell back to historical, and frankly realistic levels. So what do people do when something new isn't work? Go go back to old formulas (D7500, D500, D850, and likely D5x), that did bring in more money. Why did that bring in more money? Because more people had to move up to the higher priced units to get all the features they wanted. When profitability is no.1, that is what you do.

snakebunk

@PB_PM: But the D5x according to your specs sounds very similar to the D850, don't you think? I don't understand how the D5x fits into the formula.

PB_PM

45-46MP is the same as more than 50MP? I'm just guessing here like anyone else. I doubt Nikon would bother with a D5x unless it had 60MP, but you never know, they might could use a 50-52MP sensors too. They can only work with what Sony is willing to make for them.

snakebunk

I think the formula built around D5, D500 and D810/850 is currently pretty good. But I think there needs to be a change in the future to compete with mirrorless and mf competitors. And, you are right, 46 is not the same as 50+, I am 46 myself and the difference is huge .

BabaGanoush

"Nikon changed the formula a few years ago (D7200/D600/D610/D800/D810), and profitability started to drop as sales fell back to historical"

I think your trust in management is sadly misplaced. If Nikon management deserves your confidence now, how come---so you say---they "changed the formula" and got themselves in trouble a few years ago? Didn't management know back then what they were doing? Oh, Nikon is under NEW management today. Right, the new guys ALWAYS know better than the old guys. Nope. Same ole, same ole. I'm just going to play it safe, make no predictions, and wait to see how things turn out. If the D850 is what I need, I'll considering buying one. If not, I will wait, money in hand, until 2018 to see what mirrorless camera Nikon brings to market.

donaldejose

Actually, chances are any new lineup will be build around the mirrorless line to be announced next year. We are probably on the last of the DSLR line now. Or maybe there will be one more cycle of DSLRs if Nikon's mirrorless line does not dominate after it becomes available.

PB_PM

BabaGanoush said:

I think your trust in management is sadly misplaced...

Did I say I trusted them at any point in this thread? Never. Did I say I agree with their choices? Never. I understand the choices, but that doesn't mean I like them, or think they will be ever remotely successful .

framer

There will not be a D5x I only give a D5s bring a minor upgrade less than even money on ever happening. A D850 will be the studio camera to have.

Just my 2 sense,
framer

snakebunk

framer said:

There will not be a D5x I only give a D5s bring a minor upgrade less than even money on ever happening. A D850 will be the studio camera to have.

Just my 2 sense,
framer

Yes, I agree. Also, if the D850 has 8-10 fps it will be a versatile camera that can be very good for a lot more than studio work. If Nikon wants to make an even higher end high mp studio camera, I think it should/will be medium format. A D5x with 50 or 60 mp could be just what the D860 (?) will have anyways, if the current lineup continues.

kanuck

framer said:

There will not be a D5x I only give a D5s bring a minor upgrade less than even money on ever happening. A D850 will be the studio camera to have.

Just my 2 sense,
framer

I agree the the D800 line pretty much put an end to Nikon's D_x lineup. The D850 sounds like it will have 8 FPS and 46 mp. If it had 10 FPS that would really be some sensor! I think the D5s will be out in time for the February Superbowl and Winter Olympics in South Korea. There is also the Football World Cup in the spring as well so a lot of major events coming early in 2018.

FreezeAction

Just wondering if the time-lapse video will be a work around to allow for them to get around added taxes for video capability or whatever the problem is they don't have longer than 29 minute video capabilities now?

MegapixelSchnitzel

donaldejose said:

50+ mp D5x for $7,000? That would be a bargain. Hope it comes true. The 24mp D3x was $8,000. The D5 is $6,500. Some people think the D5 line should be split into two: a high speed D5s and a high megapixel D5x.

Agreed. I'd spend $7K in a heartbeat for a D5x. I'm expecting more along the lines of $9K to be honest. And then we are in medium format territory. Such as Hasselblad.

Pistnbroke

9K on a camera body ..where do you get your money from ? Certainly not from taking photos .....(spraynpray is nodding )

Capt_Spaulding

Personally, 25 to 30 mp is probably my limit. Above that I suspect my technical failings would be all viewers would notice.

MegapixelSchnitzel

Pistnbroke said:

9K on a camera body ..where do you get your money from ? Certainly not from taking photos .....(spraynpray is nodding )

Being a good gunsmith has its advantages

framer

Pistnbroke said:

9K on a camera body ..where do you get your money from ? Certainly not from taking photos .....(spraynpray is nodding )

Why does someone spend 60K on a small sports car...?

Choice.

If you make enough % of income from photography or own your own business, it comes from pretax dollars.

framer

DenverShooter

You can buy a sports car for $60K?


Denver Shooter