D850

donaldejose

Funny. Ken owns this house in Florida.

WestEndFoto

shubhabrata29 said:

Any more news on the D8X0 ? Found this: http://photographyupdates.com/nikon-d850-4k-dslr-specifications/ AND How can be he so confident ??!!

This guy is an idiot. It is one thing to speculate or guess like we do on this forum, another thing to talk like you are reading the press release.

donaldejose

Ken has a very unusual personality. I dare say a psychiatrist would diagnose a personality disorder (maybe a schizoid personality disorder?). Someday I would like to met him and see how he is in person. My guess is that he is actually not very social in public (strange to expect that I know from his outgoing youtube personality). I suspect Ken is a really nice and really shy person. His internet alter ego enables him to have a social life which he doesn't have in real life with real people. That is why he has time to make so many youtube videos.

rmp

He should run for congress: He states his opinion like it was a fact.

donaldejose

"Irrefutable" to use one of Ken's phrases! LOL

heartyfisher

donaldejose said:

"Irrefutable" to use one of Ken's phrases! LOL

For a second I heard "Inconceivable!" ...

paulr

We can all hypothesise on what we think a new model will be, the question I ask, are we taking advantage of the current D810 we own. I have always bought the best Nikon lenses I could get which were suitable for my demands. I have also been able to receive help from Nikon if I needed a special lens for a special occasion . I have looked at specialised lens manufactories like Schneider and Zeiss to see if their products took the full capabilities and advantage of the D810. and used all those millions of pixels. In conclusion I have found that certain lenses that Zeiss make do improve the overhaul quality that the camera can produce, at a cost. however the virtues of 35mm and choice of focal lengths available outstrip the limited Medium Format alternatives and again are substantially a less investment. Clearly Zeiss lens will not suit certain photographic uses , or could be difficult
However, where you have a situation of set-up time the Zeiss lenses take 35mm to a new level.

shubhabrata29

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/58985767
Nikon Rumors just twittered that a Nikon D850 will be announced this week.

paulr

Can't wait!

Sports

shubhabrata29 said:

Nikon Rumors just twittered that a Nikon D850 will be announced this week

In other words, it is being rumored that NR is reporting a rumor - LOL

IanG

@Sports

This is just a rumour

Pistnbroke

Well if it is 47MP and $3300 they lost it for me as I was looking for 24MP plus in crop mode and 47 is not a big enough advantage in FX over the 810 cameras I got.If its still got those crappy pro controls then its no way ....
If you divide the area of a DX sensor into a FX and multiply by 20.9 you get the 47MP he is on about .
I don't think greek Ken would say this if it was wrong as he would be totally embarrassed to be wrong ...he got information

PeachBlack

Is anyone really expecting to be blown away by the D820/850?

This is what I expect, not what I want: the recycled autofocus system from the D5 and a higher MP sensor—possibly just a slightly tweaked 42MP sensor of the Sony 7RII—with somewhat better ISO performance and somewhat higher dynamic range, a couple of minor bullet points, and an MSRP around $4000.

Would anyone be surprised if this is actually what we get?

If that's what we are presented, few people will be rushing out to buy it. A lot of people will buy one eventually because cameras have to be replaced, but it will be more like what happened with the D5. Oh, that's a nice feature. Oh, that'll be handy. Oh, I guess that's fairly impressive. Meh, I don't need it.

I hope there's significantly more to it than this, I really do.

paulr

We live in hope that Nikon are still in Leap-Frog game.

heartyfisher

So what frog are we expecting to be leaping over? Which C frog or S frog?

WestEndFoto

What more would you expect besides 100% viewfinder coverage for AF - which would be huge.

paulr

Heartyfisher I think there will a few Frogs enter the game Ha and Fu and Pa, I am sure Nikon are looking closely at the competition Clearly their strategy with their new lenses indicates an increase in pixels to start with.

BVS

PeachBlack said:

Is anyone really expecting to be blown away by the D820/850?

This is what I expect, not what I want: the recycled autofocus system from the D5 and a higher MP sensor—possibly just a slightly tweaked 42MP sensor of the Sony 7RII—with somewhat better ISO performance and somewhat higher dynamic range, a couple of minor bullet points, and an MSRP around $4000...

Yeah, that seems like the logical evolution. I assume it'll also get:

- D5/500 metering and color tweaks.
- Possibly a slight FPS boost to better compete with 5DIV.
- D5/500 higher res touch screen.
- 4K video
- XQD and UHS-II card slots
- Auto-AF fine tune.
- Support for Nikon's wireless flashes

Other stuff that's less likely, but would be nice:

- 'Fix' the shooting banks - make them lockable or something and make them easy to select from the main buttons/dial.
- Ability to use EFCS with regular Live View shooting.
- Ability to have multiple fine tune setting per lens like you can do with the Sigma and Tamron docks.
- On sensor PDAF to use with Live View shooting/video. The 42MP sensor already has it, so why not use it.

PeachBlack

Let's just be clear: there is NO way that Nikon is going to put a more advanced AF system into a D8xx than is in its flagship. The best we can hope for is that it isn't worse; indeed, it's extremely unlikely that anything non-sensor related will beat their flagship camera. Nikon pretty much always develops something for the flagship and then lets it filter down eventually while it works on new stuff for the flagship.

What I want is a Nikon 7RII, but I don't think anyone sees that happening. Plus a mirrorless would probably have a different naming convention, like a Dm800 or something. It's probably not what you want, but at least it would be something exciting and nominally innovative.

We can throw out all the wish-lists we want, though, but we already know what it's likely to be: a camera similar to the D500 in functionality and design, with a larger sensor and an fps around five or six.

retread

BVS said:

PeachBlack said:

Is anyone really expecting to be blown away by the D820/850?

This is what I expect, not what I want: the recycled autofocus system from the D5 and a higher MP sensor—possibly just a slightly tweaked 42MP sensor of the Sony 7RII—with somewhat better ISO performance and somewhat higher dynamic range, a couple of minor bullet points, and an MSRP around $4000...

Yeah, that seems like the logical evolution. I assume it'll also get:

- D5/500 metering and color tweaks.
- Possibly a slight FPS boost to better compete with 5DIV.
- D5/500 higher res touch screen.
- 4K video
- XQD and UHS-II card slots
- Auto-AF fine tune.
- Support for Nikon's wireless flashes

Other stuff that's less likely, but would be nice:

- 'Fix' the shooting banks - make them lockable or something and make them easy to select from the main buttons/dial.
- Ability to use EFCS with regular Live View shooting.
- Ability to have multiple fine tune setting per lens like you can do with the Sigma and Tamron docks.
- On sensor PDAF to use with Live View shooting/video. The 42MP sensor already has it, so why not use it.

That sounds like the good list to me. I do think they will leapfrog over C to more MP. I do hope they keep the price closer to $3000 than $4000. The $4000 is more than I can see in by hoped for budget.

Pistnbroke

Remember that shock when the 36 mp D800 arrived unexpectedly ?? I like MP shocks

PeachBlack

Let's do some math. The D5 is 20.3mp at 12fps. That means it has a throughput of about 243.2 megapixels per second. We can be pretty sure that this is close to the current horsepower limit of the new chip because Nikon wants to squeeze every frame that it can out of the thing for marketing purposes. There *could* be another explanation, but this is by FAR the most likely.

It's also likely that pushing the processor like this comes at some cost. Remember, Nikon developed an entirely new chip for the D500 that by most accounts isn't quite as good as the 24mp chip that it could've easily recycled. With 20.9mp at 10fps, we get only 209mp/s. Why did Nikon do this? It's hard to say

Now, assuming a 42mp chip and a 243.2mp/s limit, that means we can expect an fps of 5.8. If the chip gets up to 50mp, then that's down to 4.9. A 60mp chip shrinks it to 4.1.

Man, I don't know. Would you rather have 42mp at 6fps or 60mp at 4fps?

WestEndFoto

4.1 is just fine for me on a D820 with 60mp. Just give me a buffer that will let me shoot 50 raw images on continuous fast.

If you want more fps, buy a D760.

BVS

The problem is though, if Nikon goes 60mp@4fps the camera becomes more of a specialist model instead of a general purpose model, which then leaves a hole in the lineup with no direct competitor to 5DIV and A7RII. I'd almost expect a new product line (e.g. D900) or a variant of D850 (e.g. D850x) to be 60mp and D850 to stay 42mp or 36mp, kind of like 5DIII and 5DSR.

WestEndFoto

There is a logic there.