Z9 is coming

NSXTypeR

PB_PM said:

NSXTypeR said:

Doesn't Nikon tend to coincide some pro model and some pro lens with the Olympics though?

It's either going to be some pro DSLR or mirrorless.

The D6 came out last year, I suspect it was going to be out in time for the Olympics, but was delayed by the pandemic. I doubt the Z9 would have been ready last summer.

That's true, I don't think the Z lineup was meant to come out so soon.

donaldejose

If I were to leave Nikon I think I would go with the Fuji GFX 100s since most of my work now and for the foreseeable future is portraiture and the GFX 100s seems to be the best portrait system for a reasonable price. However, people are not wanting prints larger than poster size so, in all reality, full frame 24 mp is enough to produce that and 50 mp is more than enough. Most people want prints no larger than 8x10. That is why I am thinking the Z9 will be the "perfect" body for me. It will give me enough sensor size and pixel number for portraits as large as I want to print them and it will give me a sports, action, wildlife body in addition. If it just works well, that is! To be determined.

Good comments (and examples) from a high end wedding photographer who shot Phase One for 10 years and moved to Fuji GFX 100s. Interesting that he feels the GFX is much better than the much more expensive Phase One. Since the GFX 100s body will be about the same price as the Z9, it becomes an alternative purchase. In my case I would only add two GFX lenses, a portrait prime and a general purpose zoom. A primarily landscape shooter might add only a prime wide angle and a prime normal or portrait lens. There is a rumor now about a new GFX body out this fall with a 50mp sensor in the same body as the GFX100s and at a 3k price. Think D850 with a larger sensor.

photobunny

I hope they have a 120/240hz EVF in this one. The AF can have the same modes as the Z6, but I want a EVF to have significantly less latency.

Of late for my 500mm PF I have been using a D500 (mostly because I couldn't find a 1.4X TC) and my Z6. The Z6 focuses as quickly, but its AF is much better since it goes edge to edge and there is no bad focus point. Getting low works better on the Z6 and you can zoom in to get pinpoint AF on a stationary subject.

I would also like from the D500 to port over pressing the FN button and DOF preview button to change into single point and a wide/very wide AF area.

rmp

Thanks for the comment on focus speed.

donaldejose

Can this be real? Anyone know anything about this photographer?

photobunny

donaldejose said:

Can this be real? Anyone know anything about this photographer?

It is a special day of the year

donaldejose

Sooo funny if you read his review.

DenverShooter

Here is the "in-depth" review.

https://www.squiver.com/blog/nikon-z9-field-report/

LOL

WestEndFoto

As soon as I read “20 stop dr” I was unable to prevent my eyes from rolling.

DenverShooter

Hey Niko find me a Starbucks! Built in hand warmers and species detection too! And a dating ap tossed in. A very funny and creative April fools spoof.

Pistnbroke

If the R3 is the canon equivalent to Z9 and it has only one SD card then canon have not learned from Nikons Z 6/7 experience. It could have internal memory .

photobunny

The R3 certainly looks like a strong contender for the crown and will give the Z9 a good run for its money. I think tech wise they are very similar, what is left to be seen from Nikon is if they can get their AI up to Canon's level... I want eye AF on my birds and bugs like those R5/R6 chaps have.

snakebunk

I don't care about looks but I must say that the Canon R3 has a very nice design. It looks better than the Z9.

Frames per second is equal between R3 and A1, and I think the Z9 will also have 30 fps (otherwise they don't use the stacked sensor very well).

It is interesting that neither Nikon or Canon let us know the pixel resolution. What do you think it will be?

PS. I like that there is a bird in the video

photobunny

@snakebunk I think the Z9 has a nicer design, somewhat more elegant and reminding me of the old SLR's. As for FPS and MP I fully expect they all have 45-50MP as 8k video is the current target for these bodies and on that note, Nikon has in the past done less FPS than Canon's pro bodies, but that isn't to say the real world FPS where different. 30 FPS on the A1 has all kinds of conditions on the lens.

Nikon launching a camera capable of 30 or 45 FPS and but the lens can't stop down and it has to be in manual AF or only when the moon is at its highest peek is less useful than the A9 having 20 FPS mechanical and 20 FPS electric blackout free on all Z lenses (it probably wont be full speed on F lenses).

snakebunk

@photobunny: I agree on all except the design .

photobunny

@snakebunk if the RF 200-500mm f/4.0 TC comes out I am sure I won’t care about the design of the R3. But.. I hope Nikon does their Z 180-500 f/4.0 TC to answer Canon so I don’t need two systems. That proposed Canon lens would be a one lens to rule them all for my subjects but I won’t be giving up my 500 PF and 70-200 S, they can live side by side as one but happy family. A 200-500 f/4.0 with a built in TC would never leave its body.

mhedges

I think there's at least a chance the R3 is more like the traditional sports cameras resolution wise. So in the 20 mp range with video topping out at 4K. They already have the R5 as a reasonably fast high MP camera.

photobunny

mhedges said:

I think there's at least a chance the R3 is more like the traditional sports cameras resolution wise. So in the 20 mp range with video topping out at 4K. They already have the R5 as a reasonably fast high MP camera.

Wouldn't that just be a R6 then? The R6 has the same sensor as the 1Dx3 and does the same 12 FPS mechanical and 20 FPS electronic as the R5.

mhedges

photobunny said:

mhedges said:

I think there's at least a chance the R3 is more like the traditional sports cameras resolution wise. So in the 20 mp range with video topping out at 4K. They already have the R5 as a reasonably fast high MP camera.

Wouldn't that just be a R6 then? The R6 has the same sensor as the 1Dx3 and does the same 12 FPS mechanical and 20 FPS electronic as the R5.

Well it would have a stacked sensor and higher FPS with better AF. Also integrated grip. But yes you have a point. I'm thinking R3 will be lower MP and an eventual R1 will be the high MP version.

photobunny

The new FW updates for the Z6ii/z7ii show a lot of promise for the Z9. I expect we'll have a very smart and comprehensive subject/object detection algorithm by the time it comes out, and all fully tested by Z6ii/z7ii users ahead of time.

It would also be interesting if you could train the AF algorithm yourself for speciality subjects, but that would require a beefy computer and a boat load of images on that one subject to teach the camera what a chair is or what a dummy is or whatever other obscure thing that for some reason or another you don't want to use a traditional AF mode.

Pistnbroke

It easy to detect a dummy ..it has Canon on its camera strap.

photobunny

Pistnbroke said:

It easy to detect a dummy ..it has Canon on its camera strap.

See I would have went for a Sony strap as the users are usually perceived as the young crowd or instgrammers so they might still have a dummy tit in their gob.

spraynpray

Capt_Spaulding

photobunny said:

Pistnbroke said:

It easy to detect a dummy ..it has Canon on its camera strap.

See I would have went for a Sony strap as the users are usually perceived as the young crowd or instgrammers so they might still have a dummy tit in their gob.

What, precisely, is this? I don't know the dialect.

photobunny

Capt_Spaulding said:

photobunny said:

Pistnbroke said:

It easy to detect a dummy ..it has Canon on its camera strap.

See I would have went for a Sony strap as the users are usually perceived as the young crowd or instgrammers so they might still have a dummy tit in their gob.

What, precisely, is this? I don't know the dialect.

A dummy (tit/teat) is English for fake teat which is also called a soother. Gob is slang for mouth.